Comments on: Filthy children’s TV corrupting young minds https://christiangovernance.ca/analysis-and-opinion/opinion/filthy-childrens-tv-corrupting-young-minds ChristianGovernance Sun, 17 Oct 2010 05:13:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: SiteEditor https://christiangovernance.ca/analysis-and-opinion/opinion/filthy-childrens-tv-corrupting-young-minds/comment-page-1#comment-1572 SiteEditor Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:38:01 +0000 https://christiangovernance.ca/?p=2476#comment-1572 sinned34, I'm glad you have a value system against which to judge people. That proves you're not a relativist or an atheist, so you're making progress. Not sure on what basis you make the judgment that your value system is better than the Bible's. sinned34, I’m glad you have a value system against which to judge people. That proves you’re not a relativist or an atheist, so you’re making progress. Not sure on what basis you make the judgment that your value system is better than the Bible’s.

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By: sinned34 https://christiangovernance.ca/analysis-and-opinion/opinion/filthy-childrens-tv-corrupting-young-minds/comment-page-1#comment-1571 sinned34 Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:28:45 +0000 https://christiangovernance.ca/?p=2476#comment-1571 Ian Tuck, If the KJV was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me! There's no way that God would or could ever allow His Word to be mistranslated without it meaning precisely what He meant it to read! Words may change over time, but God and His Word never changes, no matter how many experts admit that the earliest manuscripts of the Gospel of Mark ended at chapter 16, verse 8, or that the Gospel of John never originally included verses 7:52 through 8:11. And I agree - God is not evil, even if He has performed acts that modern western society would consider crimes against humanity and/or war crimes, for which we've executed humans for committing. However, our Lord must be held to a higher standard than mere mortals, and so He would have to be acquitted of all charges, were it even possible to get Him to agree to accept a subpoena! Stay with Christ! Ian Tuck,

If the KJV was good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for me! There’s no way that God would or could ever allow His Word to be mistranslated without it meaning precisely what He meant it to read! Words may change over time, but God and His Word never changes, no matter how many experts admit that the earliest manuscripts of the Gospel of Mark ended at chapter 16, verse 8, or that the Gospel of John never originally included verses 7:52 through 8:11.
And I agree – God is not evil, even if He has performed acts that modern western society would consider crimes against humanity and/or war crimes, for which we’ve executed humans for committing. However, our Lord must be held to a higher standard than mere mortals, and so He would have to be acquitted of all charges, were it even possible to get Him to agree to accept a subpoena!

Stay with Christ!

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By: Ian Tuck https://christiangovernance.ca/analysis-and-opinion/opinion/filthy-childrens-tv-corrupting-young-minds/comment-page-1#comment-1512 Ian Tuck Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:30:55 +0000 https://christiangovernance.ca/?p=2476#comment-1512 Sinned34 "Every Christian that has read The Word knows the Lord creates both good and evil!" You do not understand scripture. God did not create evil, because evil is what is left when you remove God, just like cold is what is left when you remove heat and darkness is what you get when you remove light. This is why our society is becoming so corrupt and violent, because we've told God we don't want to have Him in anything we do. So when God is gone what is left? If you wish to quote some bible verses to say God created evil try using a modern translation which understands how words have changed in meaning over time. The KJV uses the word gay but it has a vastly different meaning today than when it was translated. The Hebrew word translated as evil in the KJV is often referring to calamity or adversity. Not at all the same meaning as you intended. Sinned34 “Every Christian that has read The Word knows the Lord creates both good and evil!” You do not understand scripture. God did not create evil, because evil is what is left when you remove God, just like cold is what is left when you remove heat and darkness is what you get when you remove light.
This is why our society is becoming so corrupt and violent, because we’ve told God we don’t want to have Him in anything we do. So when God is gone what is left?
If you wish to quote some bible verses to say God created evil try using a modern translation which understands how words have changed in meaning over time. The KJV uses the word gay but it has a vastly different meaning today than when it was translated. The Hebrew word translated as evil in the KJV is often referring to calamity or adversity. Not at all the same meaning as you intended.

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By: sinned34 https://christiangovernance.ca/analysis-and-opinion/opinion/filthy-childrens-tv-corrupting-young-minds/comment-page-1#comment-1474 sinned34 Thu, 14 Oct 2010 05:03:34 +0000 https://christiangovernance.ca/?p=2476#comment-1474 Ian Tuck, I've devoured a number of articles here, enjoying God's fingerprints all over Tim's writings, and I cannot see how you could possibly miss that Tim follows the Lord's demands to lovingly force Christianity upon the awful heathens and nonbelievers in Canada. Like Tim said, the definition of the word "theocracy" is "government based on Jesus", no matter what Commie-inspired dictionaries like Cambridge or Webster's say! If you are unable to embrace the Biblically-based Truths in Tim's writings that require True Christians ™ to grasp the reins of power in order to forcibly "improve" nonChristian lives by passing laws preventing them from spreading their Satanic views and opinions in our Godly country, then I recommend you head on over to one of the Communist "Christian" websites. Perhaps you could find a good Anglican site that suits your Liberal anti-Christ spirit! Thankfully, from what I've seen thus far, Tim is smart enough to use vague wording instead of getting into actual details on what policies he'd like to see Christians implement, so as to not give those filthy, all-powerful humanists and atheists ammunition with which to frighten the citizenry! Like any good creationist arguing against an evil evolutionist, it's best to avoid getting bogged down into particulars and evidence, which seems to be scientists' strengths, for some unGodly reason! That said, Ian, I don't need to make up lies about how Christianity has used coercion to Jesus' benefit - both history and the Bible are filled with examples of God using both good AND evil in order to save and damn those whom He has predestined to their fates. Every Christian that has read The Word knows the Lord creates both good and evil! So, you'll get no crying from me, until my eyes witness the glory of the Lord returning to slaughter His enemies, in His mercy! Ian Tuck,
I’ve devoured a number of articles here, enjoying God’s fingerprints all over Tim’s writings, and I cannot see how you could possibly miss that Tim follows the Lord’s demands to lovingly force Christianity upon the awful heathens and nonbelievers in Canada. Like Tim said, the definition of the word “theocracy” is “government based on Jesus”, no matter what Commie-inspired dictionaries like Cambridge or Webster’s say!
If you are unable to embrace the Biblically-based Truths in Tim’s writings that require True Christians ™ to grasp the reins of power in order to forcibly “improve” nonChristian lives by passing laws preventing them from spreading their Satanic views and opinions in our Godly country, then I recommend you head on over to one of the Communist “Christian” websites. Perhaps you could find a good Anglican site that suits your Liberal anti-Christ spirit!
Thankfully, from what I’ve seen thus far, Tim is smart enough to use vague wording instead of getting into actual details on what policies he’d like to see Christians implement, so as to not give those filthy, all-powerful humanists and atheists ammunition with which to frighten the citizenry! Like any good creationist arguing against an evil evolutionist, it’s best to avoid getting bogged down into particulars and evidence, which seems to be scientists’ strengths, for some unGodly reason!
That said, Ian, I don’t need to make up lies about how Christianity has used coercion to Jesus’ benefit – both history and the Bible are filled with examples of God using both good AND evil in order to save and damn those whom He has predestined to their fates. Every Christian that has read The Word knows the Lord creates both good and evil!
So, you’ll get no crying from me, until my eyes witness the glory of the Lord returning to slaughter His enemies, in His mercy!

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By: Ian Tuck https://christiangovernance.ca/analysis-and-opinion/opinion/filthy-childrens-tv-corrupting-young-minds/comment-page-1#comment-1404 Ian Tuck Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:07:56 +0000 https://christiangovernance.ca/?p=2476#comment-1404 Baby sinned34, I think I did make you cry, or possibly the inhalation of too much flatulence has muddled your brain. Something is at work here to prevent you from clear thought, so what is it? Possibly it is just a choice you've made to hate Christians and everything they stand for, even if what they stand for is for the good of your life and society. Is it rational to spew your vitriol against persons who wish to improve society and help you live a good life? You keep coming back to accusations that Christians are trying to push Christianity down your throat yet you offer no proof. Let me offer a little of my understanding for you: Christianity is not about coercion of other's to conform, it is not about hatred of others who do not conform. You just make those things up or find some obscure incidence of someone who attended church, at least once, and they represent "Christianity" in your mind. Be honest baby sinned34, you don't need to keep crying unless they are tears of contrition. Baby sinned34, I think I did make you cry, or possibly the inhalation of too much flatulence has muddled your brain. Something is at work here to prevent you from clear thought, so what is it? Possibly it is just a choice you’ve made to hate Christians and everything they stand for, even if what they stand for is for the good of your life and society. Is it rational to spew your vitriol against persons who wish to improve society and help you live a good life?
You keep coming back to accusations that Christians are trying to push Christianity down your throat yet you offer no proof. Let me offer a little of my understanding for you: Christianity is not about coercion of other’s to conform, it is not about hatred of others who do not conform. You just make those things up or find some obscure incidence of someone who attended church, at least once, and they represent “Christianity” in your mind.
Be honest baby sinned34, you don’t need to keep crying unless they are tears of contrition.

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By: sinned34 https://christiangovernance.ca/analysis-and-opinion/opinion/filthy-childrens-tv-corrupting-young-minds/comment-page-1#comment-1401 sinned34 Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:49:22 +0000 https://christiangovernance.ca/?p=2476#comment-1401 Ian Tuck, I completely agree with you. It's absolutely disgusting the way the Canadian government sends representatives to cartoon companies to ensure that every episode has the required number of fart jokes, ethnic minority characters, and positive homosexual role models! That's where SiteEditor was right in mentioning that we Christians, once we have majority power, can lower the amount of government control over families by passing laws that criminalize un-BIblical behavior! If parents want to abdicate their right to raise their children as respectful, Evangelical/Pentecostal/Baptist Canadians, then we will make sure the government steps in to the gap to save the next generation for Christ! You didn't make me cry, but the Truth behind your comments brings a tear to my eye! Especially the comment about Canada being built on Christian values! If only we could force everyone to act like Christians again, there will be no more racism, violence, poverty, communists, homosexuals, or atheists/muslims/witches/illuminati (all these groups are the same because they all worship Satan), returning us to the paradise that Canada was for hundreds of years before the 1960s ruined it all! The move away from Jesus has reduced the freedom to be ashamed of homosexual attractions, of a woman having a career instead of being a baby factory, or requesting a divorce from an abusive husband. God said it best when He stated that the best punishment for a rapist is to force him to marry his victim. We need a government-led return to these great Christian values! Ian Tuck,

I completely agree with you. It’s absolutely disgusting the way the Canadian government sends representatives to cartoon companies to ensure that every episode has the required number of fart jokes, ethnic minority characters, and positive homosexual role models!
That’s where SiteEditor was right in mentioning that we Christians, once we have majority power, can lower the amount of government control over families by passing laws that criminalize un-BIblical behavior! If parents want to abdicate their right to raise their children as respectful, Evangelical/Pentecostal/Baptist Canadians, then we will make sure the government steps in to the gap to save the next generation for Christ!
You didn’t make me cry, but the Truth behind your comments brings a tear to my eye! Especially the comment about Canada being built on Christian values! If only we could force everyone to act like Christians again, there will be no more racism, violence, poverty, communists, homosexuals, or atheists/muslims/witches/illuminati (all these groups are the same because they all worship Satan), returning us to the paradise that Canada was for hundreds of years before the 1960s ruined it all!
The move away from Jesus has reduced the freedom to be ashamed of homosexual attractions, of a woman having a career instead of being a baby factory, or requesting a divorce from an abusive husband. God said it best when He stated that the best punishment for a rapist is to force him to marry his victim. We need a government-led return to these great Christian values!

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By: PrimevilKneivel https://christiangovernance.ca/analysis-and-opinion/opinion/filthy-childrens-tv-corrupting-young-minds/comment-page-1#comment-1340 PrimevilKneivel Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:52:55 +0000 https://christiangovernance.ca/?p=2476#comment-1340 You have a right to your opinions but you can't dismiss people out of hand and claim to be interested in constructive engagement. That requires a discussion, all you have is condemnation. You have a right to your opinions but you can’t dismiss people out of hand and claim to be interested in constructive engagement. That requires a discussion, all you have is condemnation.

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By: SiteEditor https://christiangovernance.ca/analysis-and-opinion/opinion/filthy-childrens-tv-corrupting-young-minds/comment-page-1#comment-1333 SiteEditor Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:20:39 +0000 https://christiangovernance.ca/?p=2476#comment-1333 PrimevilKneivel, just because you haven't been part of my life experience up to now does not mean that I have not already considered your views, principially if not in the particulars, so it's somewhat presumptuous to say I'm not interested in constructive engagement simply because I have concluded that modern ethics in (children's) media are wanting. After all, we home schooled our son so that he could cultivate the mature dynamic of intelligent inter-generational relationships throughout his life rather than embracing the pre-civilized mob concept of peer-to-peer "socialization." Not all institutionally schooled children experience all the worst characteristics of peer-to-peer socialization, but they all experience some of them, and a growing # are group-thinkers instead of independent, creative thinkers, and a growing # won't step outside of comfort zones and be successful enterpreneurs because they are so afraid of what others think - those who are still alive, not having committed suicide over the cruelty of mob-harassment at peer-to-peer institutions. So, yes I have thought through quite comprehensively the cultural degeneration of our era, the premises and the outcomes, and we have chosen to pursue the proven road of civilization, God helping us, rather than accepting the chains of the pathetically inferior status quo of our day. PrimevilKneivel, just because you haven’t been part of my life experience up to now does not mean that I have not already considered your views, principially if not in the particulars, so it’s somewhat presumptuous to say I’m not interested in constructive engagement simply because I have concluded that modern ethics in (children’s) media are wanting. After all, we home schooled our son so that he could cultivate the mature dynamic of intelligent inter-generational relationships throughout his life rather than embracing the pre-civilized mob concept of peer-to-peer “socialization.” Not all institutionally schooled children experience all the worst characteristics of peer-to-peer socialization, but they all experience some of them, and a growing # are group-thinkers instead of independent, creative thinkers, and a growing # won’t step outside of comfort zones and be successful enterpreneurs because they are so afraid of what others think – those who are still alive, not having committed suicide over the cruelty of mob-harassment at peer-to-peer institutions. So, yes I have thought through quite comprehensively the cultural degeneration of our era, the premises and the outcomes, and we have chosen to pursue the proven road of civilization, God helping us, rather than accepting the chains of the pathetically inferior status quo of our day.

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By: PrimevilKneivel https://christiangovernance.ca/analysis-and-opinion/opinion/filthy-childrens-tv-corrupting-young-minds/comment-page-1#comment-1325 PrimevilKneivel Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:40:51 +0000 https://christiangovernance.ca/?p=2476#comment-1325 <blockquote>"PrimevilKneivel, you want to be given the benefit of the doubt re. your commitment to constructive engagement. You might also give me the benefit of the doubt that my broader comments on the degenerate nature of modern offerings to children, dumbing them down and degrading their development stem from a fuller observation of what’s taking place than just one 30 second segment of one TV show."</blockquote> Then maybe you should have provided one. You wrote an post attacking an entire industry, don't expect those whom you've slandered to make your argument for you. Apparently you are not open to constructive engagement.

“PrimevilKneivel, you want to be given the benefit of the doubt re. your commitment to constructive engagement. You might also give me the benefit of the doubt that my broader comments on the degenerate nature of modern offerings to children, dumbing them down and degrading their development stem from a fuller observation of what’s taking place than just one 30 second segment of one TV show.”

Then maybe you should have provided one. You wrote an post attacking an entire industry, don’t expect those whom you’ve slandered to make your argument for you.

Apparently you are not open to constructive engagement.

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By: Ian Tuck https://christiangovernance.ca/analysis-and-opinion/opinion/filthy-childrens-tv-corrupting-young-minds/comment-page-1#comment-1322 Ian Tuck Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:31:01 +0000 https://christiangovernance.ca/?p=2476#comment-1322 sinned34, nobody is advocating foisting Christianity upon anyone. Parents need to wake up and instruct their children according to THEIR moral wishes. Others are having a very big influence on children and parents are asleep at the wheel. This is about Christians parents mostly, but it still applies to anyone who wants to raise a child they will be proud of. Whether someone has religious views or not has little to do with the topic. Do you wish to raise a child to be a crude, rude and socially unacceptable person? I would hope not! Clearly the message is too much Government control, there simply isn't any advocating for more, so your comments are nothing but dishonest smear tactics. Sorry if I made baby sinned34 to cry. Oh and Canada is already sporting a lot of Christian values, it is what made this country great and free. Do not murder is a Christian value, so is do not steal or that everyone is equal. The destruction of Christian values is what is reducing quality of life for many Canadians due to reduced freedoms. Try some honesty, I'm sure you'll like it. sinned34, nobody is advocating foisting Christianity upon anyone. Parents need to wake up and instruct their children according to THEIR moral wishes. Others are having a very big influence on children and parents are asleep at the wheel. This is about Christians parents mostly, but it still applies to anyone who wants to raise a child they will be proud of. Whether someone has religious views or not has little to do with the topic. Do you wish to raise a child to be a crude, rude and socially unacceptable person? I would hope not!
Clearly the message is too much Government control, there simply isn’t any advocating for more, so your comments are nothing but dishonest smear tactics. Sorry if I made baby sinned34 to cry.
Oh and Canada is already sporting a lot of Christian values, it is what made this country great and free. Do not murder is a Christian value, so is do not steal or that everyone is equal. The destruction of Christian values is what is reducing quality of life for many Canadians due to reduced freedoms.
Try some honesty, I’m sure you’ll like it.

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